• Zensate@lemmy.worldBanned from communityEnglish
    3·
    22 days ago

    The reason you have a lot of respect for him, is because he’s basically acting as atheist as you can while still being the pope for the church.

    That’s great for atheists like us, but it makes him a terrible pope.

    • motoxjake@lemmy.zipEnglish
      33·
      22 days ago

      I’m curious why you say it makes him a terrible Pope. A lot of Catholics thinks he is great too. Some don’t. It’s all subjective really isn’t it?

      • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nzEnglish
        20·
        22 days ago

        The Cardinals elect the Pope they want to set the direction of the Church. So, by definition he’s the best Pope.

        • flowerysong@awful.systemsEnglish
          17·
          22 days ago

          You think the fucking pope is “adhering to atheist values”? What an interesting place the inside of your head must be.

        • ebu@awful.systemsEnglish
          9·
          22 days ago

          atheists and christians are like electrons and positrons. whenever they collide (such as in a football game) they instantly destroy one another

        • Charlie Stross@wandering.shop
          7·
          22 days ago

          @Zensate You seem to believe in “atheist values”, but they are not: speaking as an atheist raised in a non-Christian religion, what you’re talking about are specifically *Christian* atheist values—they embed a bunch of Christian eschatalogical assumptions even as they reject the core thesis. So you have *far* more in common, belief-wise, with the Pope, than you do with an ex-Hindu or ex-Jewish or ex-Buddhist atheist.

        • Wish the sun to stand still 🌞@infosec.exchange
          3·
          22 days ago

          @Zensate Uh, no. Being compatible with secular values and ideas of human rights does not make someone or something “atheist” or a bad Catholic unless one interprets their faith in hegemonic terms (i.e. that its the Pope’s or the Church’s job to be intolerant).

          The Catholic Church has a history, a lot of it being nasty, yet core Catholic doctrine (divine inspiration can come from many sources and be interpreted by people, uh, the person) suggests a lot of that history was totally unnecessary.

          But keying on your own theme, its more likely that a religious person who can’t find common ground with atheists or other religions is really just a “terrible” person.

    • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      21 days ago

      I know s he’s made statements about correcting the molestation problems in the church, but until they are all purged, convicted, and the victims are fully compensated, and the celibacy and male only priesthood is rules are abolished, he’s still a catholic.