• flowerysong@awful.systems
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      You think the fucking pope is “adhering to atheist values”? What an interesting place the inside of your head must be.

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      atheists and christians are like electrons and positrons. whenever they collide (such as in a football game) they instantly destroy one another

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      @Zensate You seem to believe in “atheist values”, but they are not: speaking as an atheist raised in a non-Christian religion, what you’re talking about are specifically *Christian* atheist values—they embed a bunch of Christian eschatalogical assumptions even as they reject the core thesis. So you have *far* more in common, belief-wise, with the Pope, than you do with an ex-Hindu or ex-Jewish or ex-Buddhist atheist.

    • @Zensate Uh, no. Being compatible with secular values and ideas of human rights does not make someone or something “atheist” or a bad Catholic unless one interprets their faith in hegemonic terms (i.e. that its the Pope’s or the Church’s job to be intolerant).

      The Catholic Church has a history, a lot of it being nasty, yet core Catholic doctrine (divine inspiration can come from many sources and be interpreted by people, uh, the person) suggests a lot of that history was totally unnecessary.

      But keying on your own theme, its more likely that a religious person who can’t find common ground with atheists or other religions is really just a “terrible” person.