So I accidentally triggered an online shitstorm in the process of trying to craft a set of more restrictive LLM usage guidelines for KDE. Sorry about that. :/ I’m going to leave the comments …
As a former donor to KDE I love nothing more than being called mere rabble.
KDE e.V. has [verified] that Framework had severed their (already very limited) ties with DHH and Omarchy.
This is asserted in the article, without citation. I’d love to know a source we can verify for this? Haven’t seen any verifiable announcement of this about Framework severing ties to DHH, or exactly what that entails.
@bignose@e8d79 the kde@floss account has got into blank assertions contrary to observable facts, and Nate may be one of the people controlling that account, so if Nate posted the sky was blue I’d assume it was night and overcast
@bignose@e8d79 yeah, I’d need a lot of proof before I’d believe this. Also, be good if they showed goodwill by sending some more laptops to FOSS maintainers that are not fashware-oriented.
@bignose@e8d79 All I can find is that Omarchy is neither on the list of recommended distributions nor on the list of sponsorships. Hyprland is still listed as sponsored at 7200€ per year though the list hasn’t been updated for a couple of months.
It would be really nice to get an official statement from @frameworkcomputer on this. Their products are excellent and we have multiple FW13 in this household but the way they have been handling this leaves a really bad taste.
@oblomov@bignose@e8d79 No, they are financially supporting both Omarchy and Hyprland (which is transphobia central), and have made an entire slew of tweets and other media promoting Omarchy. There are some more links in this thread, but that’s not all either
@engideer@oblomov@bignose@e8d79 From what I can tell they never financially sponsored omarchy, but did provide them with hardware and promoted them on twitter.
However, they did sponsor Rails World Conference 2025, which is also by DHH (and happened in september, one month before the omarchy tweets and framework forum thread about them) according to their own sponsorship list.
@freundTech@oblomov@bignose@e8d79
Gifting expensive hardware for free is sponsorship, too. They also had Omarchy material on their website (see below screenshot), but it seems that got taken down, or at least I can’t find it rn
I don’t really feel like splitting hairs about the exact forms of their partnership with nazis is of relevance though; supporting nazis in any way is supporting nazis
I’d love to know a source we can verify for this? Haven’t seen any verifiable announcement of this about Framework severing ties to DHH, or exactly what that entails.
According to Nathan, they told him behind closed doors that they withdrew support to Omarchy.
@bignose I may be wrong, but I believe that the only direct link between Framework and DHH was them mentioning Omarchy on their social feeds and they stopped doing that.
You are wrong. Omarchy is still listed on https://frame.work/linux as one of the “distributions” that they give free hardware to, and Nirav’s statement that they “don’t partner based on individuals’ or organizations’ beliefs, values, or political stances outside of their alignment with us on increasing the adoption of open source software” is still available at https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
You’ll also note that Hyprland is on the list of officially sponsored projects, and while I was willing to give that community the benefit of the doubt for a bit, Vaxry was a speaker at Omacon and sponsored by Omacom, proving that I was wrong to do so.
This is asserted in the article, without citation. I’d love to know a source we can verify for this? Haven’t seen any verifiable announcement of this about Framework severing ties to DHH, or exactly what that entails.
@bignose @e8d79 the kde@floss account has got into blank assertions contrary to observable facts, and Nate may be one of the people controlling that account, so if Nate posted the sky was blue I’d assume it was night and overcast
@bignose @e8d79 yeah, I’d need a lot of proof before I’d believe this. Also, be good if they showed goodwill by sending some more laptops to FOSS maintainers that are not fashware-oriented.
@bignose @e8d79 All I can find is that Omarchy is neither on the list of recommended distributions nor on the list of sponsorships. Hyprland is still listed as sponsored at 7200€ per year though the list hasn’t been updated for a couple of months.
It would be really nice to get an official statement from @frameworkcomputer on this. Their products are excellent and we have multiple FW13 in this household but the way they have been handling this leaves a really bad taste.
@bignose @e8d79 Seems I have missed something. Omarchy *is* on the list of distributions that have received hardware sponsorships: https://frame.work/de/en/linux
@bignose @e8d79 I don’t think they ever financed Omarchy directly, just Hyprland, and AFAICS it’s still there:
https://frame.work/it/en/blog/framework-sponsorships
@oblomov @bignose @e8d79 No, they are financially supporting both Omarchy and Hyprland (which is transphobia central), and have made an entire slew of tweets and other media promoting Omarchy. There are some more links in this thread, but that’s not all either
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
@engideer @oblomov @bignose @e8d79 From what I can tell they never financially sponsored omarchy, but did provide them with hardware and promoted them on twitter.
However, they did sponsor Rails World Conference 2025, which is also by DHH (and happened in september, one month before the omarchy tweets and framework forum thread about them) according to their own sponsorship list.
They do still sponsor Hyprland.
@freundTech @oblomov @bignose @e8d79
Gifting expensive hardware for free is sponsorship, too. They also had Omarchy material on their website (see below screenshot), but it seems that got taken down, or at least I can’t find it rn
https://tech.lgbt/@engideer/117288369103000624
I don’t really feel like splitting hairs about the exact forms of their partnership with nazis is of relevance though; supporting nazis in any way is supporting nazis
@oblomov @bignose @e8d79 they allegedly gave some laptops to the millionaire for his scripts. that’s like money.
According to Nathan, they told him behind closed doors that they withdrew support to Omarchy.
@bignose I may be wrong, but I believe that the only direct link between Framework and DHH was them mentioning Omarchy on their social feeds and they stopped doing that.
Also they never financially supported Omarchy or DHH as far as I know. Their sponsorships are here: https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships
You are wrong. Omarchy is still listed on https://frame.work/linux as one of the “distributions” that they give free hardware to, and Nirav’s statement that they “don’t partner based on individuals’ or organizations’ beliefs, values, or political stances outside of their alignment with us on increasing the adoption of open source software” is still available at https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
You’ll also note that Hyprland is on the list of officially sponsored projects, and while I was willing to give that community the benefit of the doubt for a bit, Vaxry was a speaker at Omacon and sponsored by Omacom, proving that I was wrong to do so.
@flowerysong I wonder what the source in the original post was. I can’t find it.
@flowerysong Ah, I think it’s this: https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/
they did much more than just mention omarchy, and they’re still funding hyprland who are exactly the same types of assholes
@markgl @bignose https://tech.lgbt/@engideer/117326285003857003